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		<title>By: Shirley T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, southerners are appalled at the slums in big Northern cities.   Also we don't build our houses just a few feet from our neighbors.   We like our yards.  In other words, we don't live in each others faces. I was in a doctor's office and a truck driver and his wife who frequently traveled with him called one very prominent large northeastern city as filthy.

People have an image of the South. Do you know most of the English that came to Jamestown, Virginia in early colonial days came from titled families while those that came over on the Mayflower did not?  Those New Englanders were called mere Yankee peddlers in the drawing rooms of London back in the 19th century.

The Anglo Saxon people of the South really are a blend of English, Scots, Scotch Irish(called Ulster Scots in Britain), people from one of the German states and French Huguenots.  Better than 2/3rd of them have royal ancestry due to those early English.  

I always find it amusing to watch Murder She Wrote.  Angela Lansbury does a very charming and great job as Jessica Fletcher. However, the writer of the show it appears by his name came from immigrants in the mid 19th century or early 20th century and he  always has a way of alluding to the fact that certain prominent people in the NE are aristocrats. One lady even had some jewels she had had since Bunker Hill. Its good for a laugh. A bunch of brave but ragamuffin soldiers fought valiantly for the hill but no way did they have the wealth for such things.  Descendants of those immigrant  have had an opinion that those people on Boston's Back Bay are real aristocrats for no other reason than that they were snobs.

Most Anglo Saxon people have more than one coat of arms in their family tree. That doesn't mean they are entitled to them, but some in the South have the one their ancestor brought over form England 300-400 years ago.  As a rule, they don't display them.  They are very rare among New England Yankees.  Some who have attained wealth and prominence have applied to the British College of Arms and have obtained one for a price.  If any on Boston's Back Bay have them, that's how they got them.

People with the attitude that you allude to we have a good three syllable word for them damyankee and we usually follow it with trash.

We had a man to move to our town about 35 years ago.  He was very smug about the south's past with slavery.  He was very proud of his Mayflower ancestry.  He has found in recent years that his Mayflower ancestors were deeply involved in the slave trade.   Yankee famililes like the Cabots and Faneuils and Knickerbockers like the Roosevelts made a fortune in human trafficing.  O'Reilly had James Roosevelt on his show a few years back and he acknowledged what people in the South have always known, FDR's grandfather was a slave trader.

The 1860 census shows that only 10% of Southerners own slaves prior to the Civil War.  However the Southern planter that used slaves and old Yankee families were useful to each other.  The whole nasty business was financed by New York and Boston bankers, but when the Civil War ended the Southern planter was forced to give up their slaves as they should have.  However, those hard driving, hustler, ambitious Yankees and Knickerbockers kept their fortune they made in human trafficing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, southerners are appalled at the slums in big Northern cities.   Also we don&#8217;t build our houses just a few feet from our neighbors.   We like our yards.  In other words, we don&#8217;t live in each others faces. I was in a doctor&#8217;s office and a truck driver and his wife who frequently traveled with him called one very prominent large northeastern city as filthy.</p>
<p>People have an image of the South. Do you know most of the English that came to Jamestown, Virginia in early colonial days came from titled families while those that came over on the Mayflower did not?  Those New Englanders were called mere Yankee peddlers in the drawing rooms of London back in the 19th century.</p>
<p>The Anglo Saxon people of the South really are a blend of English, Scots, Scotch Irish(called Ulster Scots in Britain), people from one of the German states and French Huguenots.  Better than 2/3rd of them have royal ancestry due to those early English.  </p>
<p>I always find it amusing to watch Murder She Wrote.  Angela Lansbury does a very charming and great job as Jessica Fletcher. However, the writer of the show it appears by his name came from immigrants in the mid 19th century or early 20th century and he  always has a way of alluding to the fact that certain prominent people in the NE are aristocrats. One lady even had some jewels she had had since Bunker Hill. Its good for a laugh. A bunch of brave but ragamuffin soldiers fought valiantly for the hill but no way did they have the wealth for such things.  Descendants of those immigrant  have had an opinion that those people on Boston&#8217;s Back Bay are real aristocrats for no other reason than that they were snobs.</p>
<p>Most Anglo Saxon people have more than one coat of arms in their family tree. That doesn&#8217;t mean they are entitled to them, but some in the South have the one their ancestor brought over form England 300-400 years ago.  As a rule, they don&#8217;t display them.  They are very rare among New England Yankees.  Some who have attained wealth and prominence have applied to the British College of Arms and have obtained one for a price.  If any on Boston&#8217;s Back Bay have them, that&#8217;s how they got them.</p>
<p>People with the attitude that you allude to we have a good three syllable word for them damyankee and we usually follow it with trash.</p>
<p>We had a man to move to our town about 35 years ago.  He was very smug about the south&#8217;s past with slavery.  He was very proud of his Mayflower ancestry.  He has found in recent years that his Mayflower ancestors were deeply involved in the slave trade.   Yankee famililes like the Cabots and Faneuils and Knickerbockers like the Roosevelts made a fortune in human trafficing.  O&#8217;Reilly had James Roosevelt on his show a few years back and he acknowledged what people in the South have always known, FDR&#8217;s grandfather was a slave trader.</p>
<p>The 1860 census shows that only 10% of Southerners own slaves prior to the Civil War.  However the Southern planter that used slaves and old Yankee families were useful to each other.  The whole nasty business was financed by New York and Boston bankers, but when the Civil War ended the Southern planter was forced to give up their slaves as they should have.  However, those hard driving, hustler, ambitious Yankees and Knickerbockers kept their fortune they made in human trafficing.</p>
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		<title>By: silent gams</title>
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		<dc:creator>silent gams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phrase, &#34;to have blood on one's hands&#34; employs the same conotations as &#34;dirty south&#34;. And, of course, vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phrase, &quot;to have blood on one&#8217;s hands&quot; employs the same conotations as &quot;dirty south&quot;. And, of course, vice versa.</p>
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		<title>By: SAMMY</title>
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		<dc:creator>SAMMY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says dirty south?

How about Hospitable South
Open West
Back East
Agricultural Midwest
Industrial North</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says dirty south?</p>
<p>How about Hospitable South<br />
Open West<br />
Back East<br />
Agricultural Midwest<br />
Industrial North</p>
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		<title>By: shortgilly</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says that? I've lived in the south and other places and never heard that.  Actually I have heard that said about the north because of the coal dust and smelting.  The south is much more known for fresh air.

In terms of directions it's Deep South or Down South, Up North, Back East, and Out West</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says that? I&#8217;ve lived in the south and other places and never heard that.  Actually I have heard that said about the north because of the coal dust and smelting.  The south is much more known for fresh air.</p>
<p>In terms of directions it&#8217;s Deep South or Down South, Up North, Back East, and Out West</p>
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